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| How powerful would a Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly be? | |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 7 2014, 05:37 AM Post #31 |
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Hey, I'm not PrinceOfAllSaiyans. You'd be foolish to think I'll fall into one of those debates, my kind sir. Before you blow your top, don't misconstrue my words. I'm here to help.![]() ![]() Looks Super Saiyan 2 to me. |
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| Saberoph | Jul 7 2014, 05:43 AM Post #32 |
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Again, Kakarrot powers up in SS more than once and only has one bang... that can't be explained away. Also, Gohan's second bang always goes up when he powers up and bursts energy. It's a lot easier to argue Gohan being SS2, but it's not very easy arguing Kakarrot being SS2, because of his track record with his hair. As for Gohan, he got his a*** handed to him as a SS2 and only went SS for the beam struggle... which leads me to believe that he didn't have enough power to go SS2. Also, don't bring other threads into this. If I wanted to play that game, then I would have already, but I'm not, so don't go there. |
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| Crow | Jul 7 2014, 05:45 AM Post #33 |
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Really, your gonna bring gt into this? |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 7 2014, 05:47 AM Post #34 |
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So much anger... I'm not arguing for Goku, I'm pointing out what I see for Gohan. Guy's hair changes right before the final burst, like it could be argued for Goku. If you don't see it, no hair off my bare chest. We can go our separate ways. |
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| Saberoph | Jul 7 2014, 05:51 AM Post #35 |
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Sure am, since GT does in fact show Movie Villains. But taking out GT it's very clear it's a new technique and does take place after the fight with Boo and at the end of Z it's clear Kakarrot had been Training, so it's more than plausible that he comes up with the attack. However, it's not plausible to believe Transforming during a beam struggle is because of how beam struggles have been shown to us from the beginning of DB it's self. It's only been shown that it's possible to power up not Transform. Using a technique during a period of time where we know that character is Training makes lods of sense that he would come up with it. |
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| Crow | Jul 7 2014, 06:11 AM Post #36 |
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You where saying it very different to you are now. I was pointing out that things still can exist if they haven't happened in the manga and anime yet which they show in movies, because that seemed to be alot of what you where saying. What I also said was that movies do not always make perfect sense to the show, maybe in other cases you could argue something like this, but it clearly shows goku and gohans hair changing. In which go ahead and argue that it's happened before to goku, of which his hair has changed at certain times in the manga, but answer me this. Why did gotens hair stay perfectly the same? Does that not tell you something? Also what I ment by GT is that it is after the movie. Edited by Crow, Jul 7 2014, 06:13 AM.
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| Saberoph | Jul 7 2014, 06:21 AM Post #37 |
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I know what you meant about GT, because I said if it isn't already established or happens again, and in GT it happens again and more times after Movie 13. So, I was well in my right to mention GT. As for Kakarrot's hair... it doesn't stay the same and the wind has it blown more to the side and it's not stiff like SS2 is and Gohan's hair isn't stiff like SS2 either. You can argue SS2 all day, but neither Gohan or Kakarrot's hair is stiff... it's just as loose as SS, which does make it SS not SS2. |
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| Crow | Jul 7 2014, 06:32 AM Post #38 |
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Very well, think that about gt and your theory if you wish, I can't stop you, but.... Why dont you answer my question? Is it because you don't have an answer? Edited by Crow, Jul 7 2014, 06:34 AM.
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| + miguelnuva | Jul 7 2014, 11:58 AM Post #39 |
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All hair flies up with a final push and Goku is being drawn with 1 bang as a SSJ even today. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 7 2014, 12:06 PM Post #40 |
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Izanagi!
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To be fair, Grade 3 would've done nothing. Why would he use a transformation that increases physical strength when he's in a beam struggle? Also, Goku was able to pump up his Kaioken to x4 in the middle of a beam struggle, so considering how much more dangerous and taxing that is than any Super Saiyan form, lack of concentration or inability to gather the ki necessary are reasons that fall flat. Considering how easily they're able to transform later on in the series, Gohan transforming during a beam struggle doesn't seem impossible and appears to be what happened. |
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| + Pointer | Jul 7 2014, 01:28 PM Post #41 |
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Lets assume that lssj 3 works the same way as its predecessor I reckon Lssj was at least two times stronger than Goku's mssj so lssj3 shall be at least 2 times stronger than Goku's ssj3 which would mean that broly in his lssj3 is stronger than Kid Buu and maybe base gotenks post training but would fail badly against Super Buu |
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| + Saiyan Paladin | Jul 7 2014, 07:48 PM Post #42 |
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Both Gohan and Goku's hair changes in the end, and anyone arguing that we've seen their hair get blown back like that before, just look at Goten's hair. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jul 7 2014, 07:55 PM Post #43 |
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I don't think Goku M11 has anything to do with M10. |
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| Saberoph | Jul 7 2014, 09:55 PM Post #44 |
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@Crow: Didn't I answer your question? If I missed it, please point it out because I wasn't avoiding it. As for the hair thing... it's quite simple for Goten. He was fighting Broli longer than Gohan did and isn't very experienced to begin with, so what he's putting out at the end is all he had left, where Kakarrot and Gohan had reserves where Goten didn't. Also, I'm arguing Gohan and Kakarrot's hair goes up from a final power up burst, not the wind from the Kamehameha. Saying it's the regular wind is just silly. Also, there's something else to think about considering we know how the Boo arc works. During the Kakarrot and Yakon fight Kakarrot Transforms and gets the SS sucked out of him, then Transforms again and puts out more power, then turns SS2. So we know this Kakarrot has the ability to power up after going SS. So, what I'm saying is... at the end Kakarrot could be bursting out to 100% and Gohan bursting out what he has left in the tank, since the last time we saw SS Gohan he also had the ability to Transform and so did Boo arc SS Gohan. The Diaz does say SS Broli>SS Kakarrot and we know that LSS Broli>SS Kakarrot. However, can we really say LSS Broli>SS Kakarrot, SS Gohan and SS Goten. The last two may not be 100%, but one of the two is fresher than the last and would have reserves and Kakarrot would be fresh and 100% and have all of his reserves. Edited by Saberoph, Jul 7 2014, 10:41 PM.
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